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		<title>By: 15 minute bedtimes &#124; Parenting Help in Michigan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[15 minute bedtimes &#124; Parenting Help in Michigan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://avoidingthedrop.com/2009/10/23/the-soccer-parent-trap/comment-page-1/#comment-8094</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you very much, again, for all the information.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much, again, for all the information.</p>
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		<title>By: Magnakai Haaskivi</title>
		<link>http://avoidingthedrop.com/2009/10/23/the-soccer-parent-trap/comment-page-1/#comment-8093</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Magnakai Haaskivi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Honestly, I think the class I took (which was about 18 hours) was my Level 8, but it was back in like 1996 so I&#039;m sure it&#039;s expired; I took it more to learn the rules (which, in theory, should make you a better player) than to officiate, but I did officiate a fair number of youth games when I was in high school (nothing over like ten years old, though).

I THINK the top rated officials go to the World Cup regardless of whether or not their host nation does, but I&#039;m not 100% sure. There are probably fewer refs involved than countries, so I&#039;m thinking that it&#039;s more the top officials per association (i.e., UEFA gets &quot;X&quot; number of delegates, CONCACAF gets &quot;Y&quot; number, etc.) than it is a country-by-country thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I think the class I took (which was about 18 hours) was my Level 8, but it was back in like 1996 so I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s expired; I took it more to learn the rules (which, in theory, should make you a better player) than to officiate, but I did officiate a fair number of youth games when I was in high school (nothing over like ten years old, though).</p>
<p>I THINK the top rated officials go to the World Cup regardless of whether or not their host nation does, but I&#8217;m not 100% sure. There are probably fewer refs involved than countries, so I&#8217;m thinking that it&#8217;s more the top officials per association (i.e., UEFA gets &#8220;X&#8221; number of delegates, CONCACAF gets &#8220;Y&#8221; number, etc.) than it is a country-by-country thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you so much for all the information!  It seems like a very long journey before I can get to MLS level.  Are you, by any chance, belong to any of those &#039;Levels?&#039;

Just out of curiosity, in order to be &#039;ref-ing&#039; the World Cup, does the Ref&#039;s own nation have to qualify to the World Cup?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for all the information!  It seems like a very long journey before I can get to MLS level.  Are you, by any chance, belong to any of those &#8216;Levels?&#8217;</p>
<p>Just out of curiosity, in order to be &#8216;ref-ing&#8217; the World Cup, does the Ref&#8217;s own nation have to qualify to the World Cup?</p>
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		<title>By: Magnakai Haaskivi</title>
		<link>http://avoidingthedrop.com/2009/10/23/the-soccer-parent-trap/comment-page-1/#comment-8091</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Magnakai Haaskivi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, disregard my first comment; I found a more accurate answer.

The Grades go in reverse, so Level 8 is the beginner level, Level 1 is the top. Level 8 is kids; Level 7 is older kids. Join AYSO, get Level 8 certification. Do some matches and get to Level 7. Level 6 is state refs; move up to that level. Level 5 is USL, Level 4 is MLS.

In between those levels, though, there are match requirements (i.e., you need to officiate a certain number of matches in order to move up the ranks; it isn&#039;t just about taking more coursework) that have to be met. It can take some time. Also, remember that high school/college have different rules than FIFA (particularly in regard to substitutions), and you&#039;ll probably end up needing certification in multiple areas to meet the match requirements.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, disregard my first comment; I found a more accurate answer.</p>
<p>The Grades go in reverse, so Level 8 is the beginner level, Level 1 is the top. Level 8 is kids; Level 7 is older kids. Join AYSO, get Level 8 certification. Do some matches and get to Level 7. Level 6 is state refs; move up to that level. Level 5 is USL, Level 4 is MLS.</p>
<p>In between those levels, though, there are match requirements (i.e., you need to officiate a certain number of matches in order to move up the ranks; it isn&#8217;t just about taking more coursework) that have to be met. It can take some time. Also, remember that high school/college have different rules than FIFA (particularly in regard to substitutions), and you&#8217;ll probably end up needing certification in multiple areas to meet the match requirements.</p>
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		<title>By: Magnakai Haaskivi</title>
		<link>http://avoidingthedrop.com/2009/10/23/the-soccer-parent-trap/comment-page-1/#comment-8090</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Magnakai Haaskivi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, MLS is different. To be an MLS ref, you need to work up through the system, first getting your local, then state, then national (you may actually be able to stop here to do MLS), and finally FIFA levels (for international games). According to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://cysa-trainingsandbox.affinitysoccer.com/eventmanager/public/calendarlist.asp?calguid=&amp;eventtab=current&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cal South Referee Registration page&lt;/a&gt;, there&#039;s a Level 8 course this weekend; I THINK Level 8 might actually be an entry level (this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.calsouth.com/data/Downloads/Referee%20Docs%2009-22-09/Entry%20Level%20(grade%208)%20Referee.doc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Word document&lt;/a&gt; appears to imply that), but I&#039;m not 100% sure. Your best bet is probably to contact them at (888) 429-7276; either way, you start off local and then move up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, MLS is different. To be an MLS ref, you need to work up through the system, first getting your local, then state, then national (you may actually be able to stop here to do MLS), and finally FIFA levels (for international games). According to the <a href="http://cysa-trainingsandbox.affinitysoccer.com/eventmanager/public/calendarlist.asp?calguid=&amp;eventtab=current" rel="nofollow">Cal South Referee Registration page</a>, there&#8217;s a Level 8 course this weekend; I THINK Level 8 might actually be an entry level (this <a href="http://www.calsouth.com/data/Downloads/Referee%20Docs%2009-22-09/Entry%20Level%20(grade%208)%20Referee.doc" rel="nofollow">Word document</a> appears to imply that), but I&#8217;m not 100% sure. Your best bet is probably to contact them at (888) 429-7276; either way, you start off local and then move up.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My goal is to be a Professional Ref. at the MLS games level.  I understand I would still have to start somewhere.  Would I still be starting at the AYSO level?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My goal is to be a Professional Ref. at the MLS games level.  I understand I would still have to start somewhere.  Would I still be starting at the AYSO level?</p>
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		<title>By: Magnakai Haaskivi</title>
		<link>http://avoidingthedrop.com/2009/10/23/the-soccer-parent-trap/comment-page-1/#comment-8088</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Magnakai Haaskivi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, at 6:00 tonight at Mystic Canyon, the first of two &quot;intermediate&quot; refereeing courses is going to be held; according to the flyer &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aysosection1.org/flyers/Intermediate_class.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;(.pdf)&lt;/a&gt;, you need to go both today (6:00-10:00) and Sunday (10:00-5:00 at the Chino Hills library) to complete the course. Incidentally, in perusing the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aysosection1.org/refs_classes.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;AYSO website&lt;/a&gt; for your region, it looks like your organization has really gone out of the way to provide a lot of resources for parents, coaches, and referees; that looks like a top-notch program over there.

It mentions that you need to preregister, and I can&#039;t find a contact number; that flyer has a couple of e-mail addresses, though, and I&#039;d bet they&#039;d be able to help you out. I&#039;m also not sure if, in this case, &quot;Intermediate&quot; is the second tier and if you need &quot;Beginner&quot; to attend.

Personally, I took refereeing courses when I was in high school; it was a great job (good hours+good pay), but it negatively impacted my attitude with referees when I was actually playing. Referees sometimes rely on the fact that the players and coaches aren&#039;t aware of the rules; the &quot;Liverpool beach ball incident&quot; (where multiple players and both coaches were seemingly unaware of the applicable law) is a great example. If you have gone through the basics, it&#039;s harder to understand how, for example, an offside call can be blown when you&#039;ve got a linesman to assist or how a card wasn&#039;t given for a particular foul. In high school I engaged in a lot of arguments with refs (partially, this was because I took the class with a guy who ended up becoming a ref for games I was playing in, and I know I got a better score than he did on the final test).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, at 6:00 tonight at Mystic Canyon, the first of two &#8220;intermediate&#8221; refereeing courses is going to be held; according to the flyer <a href="http://www.aysosection1.org/flyers/Intermediate_class.pdf" rel="nofollow">(.pdf)</a>, you need to go both today (6:00-10:00) and Sunday (10:00-5:00 at the Chino Hills library) to complete the course. Incidentally, in perusing the <a href="http://www.aysosection1.org/refs_classes.htm" rel="nofollow">AYSO website</a> for your region, it looks like your organization has really gone out of the way to provide a lot of resources for parents, coaches, and referees; that looks like a top-notch program over there.</p>
<p>It mentions that you need to preregister, and I can&#8217;t find a contact number; that flyer has a couple of e-mail addresses, though, and I&#8217;d bet they&#8217;d be able to help you out. I&#8217;m also not sure if, in this case, &#8220;Intermediate&#8221; is the second tier and if you need &#8220;Beginner&#8221; to attend.</p>
<p>Personally, I took refereeing courses when I was in high school; it was a great job (good hours+good pay), but it negatively impacted my attitude with referees when I was actually playing. Referees sometimes rely on the fact that the players and coaches aren&#8217;t aware of the rules; the &#8220;Liverpool beach ball incident&#8221; (where multiple players and both coaches were seemingly unaware of the applicable law) is a great example. If you have gone through the basics, it&#8217;s harder to understand how, for example, an offside call can be blown when you&#8217;ve got a linesman to assist or how a card wasn&#8217;t given for a particular foul. In high school I engaged in a lot of arguments with refs (partially, this was because I took the class with a guy who ended up becoming a ref for games I was playing in, and I know I got a better score than he did on the final test).</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Magnakai,

I live in Los Angeles, and I&#039;m trying to be a referee.  Can you point me to WHERE to get started?

Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Magnakai,</p>
<p>I live in Los Angeles, and I&#8217;m trying to be a referee.  Can you point me to WHERE to get started?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Magnakai Haaskivi</title>
		<link>http://avoidingthedrop.com/2009/10/23/the-soccer-parent-trap/comment-page-1/#comment-8086</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Magnakai Haaskivi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve considered going into coaching, but it seems like a tremendous hassle. I&#039;ve also considered renewing my refereeing certification, but that seems like a worse idea than coaching.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve considered going into coaching, but it seems like a tremendous hassle. I&#8217;ve also considered renewing my refereeing certification, but that seems like a worse idea than coaching.</p>
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